Thursday, April 24, 2008

Did George Scutt Die From Poisoned Apple Pie




According to my Grandfather Berlin Olyer, the story teller of our family read some of my earlier post. his grandfather George Scutt, told him that there was a church outing and George's father finished off the apple pie and died next day. well most of his stories have been proven to have some truth about them. He also claimed that the man had a half brother named Smith [that's a lot of help] and he had at least three sister with odd names like Abigail, Emiline and Mehitable, plus a brother Ren. and his wife's name was Mehetible.

Now lets look at what we know, Where do you think the truth lies.

George Wicker Scutt Sr. was born 12 dec 1813 Isle Le Mott, to Harry Scott 12 oct 1790 died 28 jul 1837 and Cornelia Wicker bn 24 aug 1783 died 23 Apr 1874 married 23 aug 1812. they had more kids but we can do them at a later post.

When George was 16 yrs of age a sailor on Lake Champlain he met and married a Mehitable age 44 that was a spring late winter marriage, born 1785, died after the 1850 census when she was 75 years old.

a little bit about her:

She had a family before meeting George. Do not know her first husband name but she had a daughter named Abigail, and a son Andrew Smith born 1824 Ah the 1/2 brother smith with the 16 year old George she had George Wicker Scutt jr born 21 mar 1830 in Alburgh Vt. ,Mehetible 1832, Reynold 1834 then in December 1838 she has a daughter named her Emiline Stoughton 2 months later George Sr. 12 feb 1838 dies.

Wait it gets better. 1850 census Alburgh,Grand Isle,Vt stop 269-270 Mehitable age 50 [she lost 15 yrs]
with her is George Scutt age 20,Reynold Scutt age 16 Sailor ,Andrew Smith age 26 Sailor, Emeline Stoughton 12 [the baby born 2 months before george died]
at Census Alburgh stop 265-266 that is 4 doors apart we find Delancy Stoughton age 66, Delancy Stoughton Jr. age 41, Gustauve age 31 and Helen Mehitable 1 month [dau of Mehetible] her and Gustave were married 15 jan 1850
but by time census was taken they were apart.

No not done yet 1860 census Alburgh ,Grand Island, Vt. Reynolds Scutt age 26 Sailor $500 $600
Harriett his wife age 24, Mary H. age 2, Eugene age 1, and Mehitable SYNARES age 75 mother, Actually its a sad story about Reynold he had more children in Alburgh, but lost his whole family in 1865, they are all buried on same lot. He later marries Mary Haiffen and they have a family in Storm Lake,Buena Vista, Iowa

but back to Mehitable she must have been married at least 4 times ??Smith, then Scutt, Stoughton, and Synares.
It must have been rather strained relations when she had Emieline in Dec and gave her the Stoughton last name and George did not die for 2 months would love to see that obituary I think my grandfather was right again, can not prove it but sure is a strange relationship
This is a comparison photo of one of the old original boats and a new copy. This is the style sailing barges that many young men worked on while on Lake Champlain in the early 1800's

Tuesday, April 22, 2008

A Place Called Home just a One Stop Light Village


It is not a big city- but I knew everyone in town by there first name before I was 14.
There really was only one stop light and it was not as old as me when I lived there.

The very first recorded information about "my town" was from a Jesuit Missionary 1667 when he visited the Mohawk Iroquois Indian nations main castle which was at a place called Tion nonto gen. it was a palisaded enclosure of about 30 houses accommodating some 300-400 native Americans. He was allowed to build the first white man chapel St Mary at the site.

30 Aug 1675 , Major Edmund Andros, Govenueror of English Provence of New York treatied with the Mohawks here in the village; an alliance that held the relationship with the English and red men united against the French. In the summer of 1689 the English helped the Mohawks move there Castle west to Wagners Hallow, and the site was vacated except for the St Mary Chapel.
1712 brought the Palatines, who had settled in Hudson River area
and then moved to Schoharie Valley only to find they did not have good title, so the next stop was the Mohawk Valley. Dominie Ehle was one of the very early missionaries, he built a solid Sand stone building in 1727,the small left hand part in photo, to which he
added a large addition 1752. When I was 11 years old, this was my play ground, no one lived in the house but I used to go into both the first and second floors, had no idea of what a valuable piece of history it was. The wood paneling was still on the stairway and a big fireplace inside where the buildings joined.

A very few other families were scattered along the North side of the Mohawk river from Ehles home to the Wormuth place at Nellis creek
[ the site of Tion nontogen] area that would be called Stump City, Muel Town and eventually Nelliston.

A highway was built along the north side of the Mohawk and eventually called the Kings Highway. In 1760 this road was used by Amherst and his troops of 10,000 men to march to Oswego,N.Y. By 1776 the Continental Congress decided to fortify the area-so using the Mohawk River as a barrier against the French from Canada, the fort was built on south side of the river.

On Washington's tour of New York, on 3 july 1783 he stayed at the Wormuth house on Nellis creek. This was the place to ford the Mohawk, Just west of were Nellis creek came into the river,silting of the creek made it easy to get across.

In 1829 there was a small cluster of homes just east of the creek and to make travel easier the first bridge between the area they called stone Arabia and Fort plain was built, this was replaced several times,

In the year 1836 there was 4 house on Nellis's property and by now the Utica-Syracuse Rail Road was completed with the tracks being along the north side of the Mohawk parallel to Kings Highway.

Now the crossroads began to grow, first there were the muel barns along the street we now call Railroad. For many years the area was called muel town.

1866 with the Civil War Veterans returning, the little cross roads started to flourish, a broom factory, drug store, a marble works, 2 grocery stores, so by 1878 the village was incorporated and called "Nellistown" we were on the move. The returning Civil War Veterans settled in the village, in fact 5 of them or there wives were still living on my street in the 1930's.
The Federal Government recognized the village 3 jun 1889 we opened a post office with Abraham Nellis the postmaster.
Our first hero in Nelliston,N.Y. was "bad bill Dahlen"after he started playing ball he spent most of his time in Brooklyn, N.Y. but the folks back home had a hero. 30 years later everyone still knew who he was.

My grt grand parents John Lasher, came home from Civil War and came in of the farm, began to buy some property he opened a shoemaker shop in front of his house on school st. then built a brick 3 story block, followed by a rather niece brick two story home. Within a couple of years My Grandfather Edwin Booth Lord married Anna Lasher and bought a house on berthood st, where my father Edwin Booth Lord, was born.

In 1911 Aug 14 about 7 pm, my dad Edwin Lord was 8 years old, playing with some other boys saw a big drop out of the sky, they of course went to see--a guy by the name of Harry N. Atwood, was crawling out of his contraption. As the boys approached he ask them where he was there reply " yur in Ed Nelusus cow pasture an he aint gonna lik it " Not much valid information for Atwood who was on a 1,256 mile
flight from St Louis Missouri, to New York City, and had just came
from Syracuse. This is the first encounter by the residence of
Nelliston to aircraft.

In the 1920's my other grandfather Berlin Olyer moved into Nelliston on West Main St. So my Genealogy got its foot hold
in this place I call Home

By the time I came along 1925 Nelliston N.Y. had grown to 281 houses about 622 residence. Almost as big as it was in the 1600's, I was born in my grandmother home on west main, but really lived at Berthood st. The area of land from village of Nelliston to Palatine Bridge to the east, about 3 miles and from Route 5 to the Mohawk river averageing about mile and half was my play ground. No one seemed to worry about the fears we have today. From the time I was about 8 or 9, was allowed to go anywhere in the village, we had 5 civil war veterans on my street so we felt safe, no side walks, Oiled dirt streets-recall they were digging up the main road putting in sewer line and water that must have been about 1932-33. In the summer the ice man delivered big cakes of ice and always he had to chip of a piece for each of us kids. The winter brought a real treat, the milk eventually came in glass bottles, the cream would freeze and squeeze up out the top about a inch or so-My grandmother would take this off [everyone else got to have 2% milk] and she would place it in cup with a little vanilla and sugar Waloo ice cream. I recall the newspaper printed a special day dillenger was shot and the day Limburgh baby was found--they actually had a boy running along the street yelling the head lines. Wouldn't be such big thing in the big cities but it sure got our attention in Hickstown, could fill a book on my home town. The Milk man would get back to the farm change wagons and become the garbage collector horse drawn of course. The Grocery Store owned by "Micky" Boslet operated for 65 years, most of his business was done on charge slips, during the depression he carried almost everyone in town. He never let anyone go without, did not matter how big your bill was he made sure you had food, He was not a rich man and I have no doubt that some people took advantage, but he was appreciated by everyone.When I was in service he would occasionally send me a box of penny "bolster" bars,he knew I always bought them when I came into the store. Hard to find people like that today.People seemed to look out for each other in the place we called home.

Saturday, April 19, 2008

Pvt George Wicker Scutt 16th N.Y.Cavalry grt-grt-grampa





















16th New York Cavalry, Co. C. Libby Prison 18 oct 1864 26 jan 1865

Pvt George Wicker Scutt born 21 mar. 1830 Alburgh, Vt. son of George Scutt and Mehitable Reynold, died 29 Dec 1902 Tupper Lake,New York married 19 Jan 1851 , Elizabeth Rhodes born 1 May 1830 South Hero, Clinton Co. New York, died 10 nov 1906 Norwood, New York

George, his story, life, and sacrifices he and his family made. Born in Alburgh,Vt his father was
17 years old when george was born, he was a sailor on Lake Champlain, his mother was 45 years old. She had been married before and had at least on son who our subject refered to as 1/2 brother. the father died 12 Feb 1839 leaving George 9 years old, the 1/2 brother plus a full brother Reynold who was 5 years old and a sister Emilia Stoughton born two months before the father died. We will leave the family at this point and pick it up in another post.

The mother had the children with her in the 1850 census when George was 20 yrs old also a sailor on Lake Champlain. Charlott Scutt

In 1851 he met and married Elizabeth Rhodes her parents were
covered in a previous post.
They started a family with Charlott bn 16 feb 1852, George bn
3 nov 1855, Mary bn 27 Mar 1858, Carry 6 sep 1860, Selah
bn 9 jan 1863. About this time Elizabeth's mother was having
trouble on the farm so George and her bought out Elizabeth's Sister
Sarah's share in the farm and moved in to help his mother in law. by
Mid summer, his time was up he enlisted in the 16th Cavalry Co.C.
1 sep 1864. life was going to change very rapidly now.
8 sep 1864 ordered to appear Hart Island New York Harbor, he just got a uniform no time to get it adjusted to fit 19 sept 1864 at Annandale,Va. replacement Depot, more equipment and a horse,and he is off to Wolfrun,Shoal,Va., to late for action but on the 22 Sept 1864 he is at Culpeper,Va. , still held in reserve. Near Lewinsville,Va. first skirmish, then on to Salem & White Plains, Va. and the realization of death and battle makes a warrior out of him fast. A few days to recover from the shock and all is going well when all hell broke loose on the 18th near Fall Church,Va. in a split second he was cut off from the unit and he and 3 other men were taken prisoners in a split second. The four were dismounted and disarmed, marched for several hours
carried of to Richmond, there they were placed on the second floor of a old brick warehouse,
which they soon learned was "Libby". They
thanked god they were not wounded. Not that
it mattered much as they were about to find out.
Rations were bad and in only a few days they also
joined the others with bowel complaints. It was
late fall and the nights were cold, the uniforms
were wool but they had no heavy coats and not
enough blankets to go around. little did they now
that by December they would be carrying out men who had frozen to death. The Chaplin Henry Bown wrote on 20 Jan 1865 and informed the commondant that there was no wood and reported what was happening but apparently nothing was done as he wrote again in a few days.
By now George was in pretty bad shape he had
acute Estacarditis, the only good thing was he
would now be on the exchange list, if he did not
freeze to death before. on the morning of 4 feb
1865 without any notice he was taken out in the
yard with others and transported to a place
called Aikens Landing,Coxes Wharf,Va. Sick, and
weak from constant diarrhea he was loaded on a boat like this and transported to a small town,
Parlo, near Annapolis , from there on 17 feb 1965 he was sent home to Saranac N.Y. on a 30 day furlough to recover. When he arrived at home he was told of the several barrels that the family had packed with food and warm cloths and sent of to him in "Libby" but of course he never received any of it. I can recall my grandfather telling the stories his mother Charlott Scutt Olyer had told him about the smoked meat and salt pork they had wrapped with wool blankets, the soft soap , and canned food that they so carefully packed for George.

While he was home on leave he continued to get sicker and had to have a local doctor submit letters for extensions of leave until he could travel back to Annapolis Va. 19 Jun 1865, he was discharged on 29 jun 1865.

In Georges pension papers it is noted he never drank, from 1889 he had reached a point were his health was so bad he could not work. It is interesting they outlined his history in a letter and then declined his request. He must have reapplied as there is a note that last payment $12.00 was paid Oct 1902. His wife has a pension of $8.00 applied 1903 Jan 15th and paid until Oct 1906

After George came back from service he and elizabeth had two more children: Ulysses Leslie Scutt 26 Oct 1867, and Sadie 2 July 1871. This Sadie is the person who sent me all the correspondence and information about the family.

My grandfather used to say the confederates took 3 of the family prisoners George Scutt held at Libby, John Lasher held at Andersonville, and Daniel Lord married Virginia girl.

Monday, April 14, 2008

From my Grandmas Kitchen

I found this photo of the exact stove my grandmother had in her kitchen in Nelliston,New York in the 1930's--have had her cook book well its really called Jewel Cook Book a compendium of useful information [Manuel for every household]

this was a gift to my grandmother to help her organize her home and I thought perhaps some of the suggestions might be of interest to the new brides and families just starting out
so will copy some tid bits for you occasionally watch for the stove:

The economy being what it is thought this recipe for Sundays dinner 1890-

Prepareing and Serving Boiled Calf Head [without the skin]
you will need a Calf's head,water,a little salt,four tablespoonfuls of melted butter, one tablespoonful of minced parsley, pepper and salt to taste, one tablespoonful of lemon-juice.
After the head has been thoroughly cleaned, and the brains removed, soak it in warm water to blanch it. Lay the brains also into warm water to soak, and let them remain for about an hour. Put the head into a stewpan, with sufficient cold water to cover it, and when it boils, add a little salt; take of every particle of scum as it rises,and boil the head until perfectly tender. Boil the brains, chop them and mix with them melted butter, minced parsley, pepper, salt and lemon-juice in the above proportion.
Take up the head, skin the tongue and put it on a small dish with the brains round it. Have ready some parsley and butter, smother the head with it, and the remainder send to table in a tureen. Bacon, ham,pickled pork or pig's cheek are indispensable with calf's head. The brains are sometimes chopped with hard boiled eggs.

Now do not go to the super market and expect to pick up a head you will have to order this a few days before trying the recipe, that will surprise them not much call for calf heads these days.

Will be bringing you more helpful hints from 1890

Saturday, April 12, 2008

English Aristocrat to Adirondack Frontier Existence

This is my 3rd great Grandmother, a story about her genealogy and the hardships of going from well to do educated lady to the hostile environment alone , in the frontier of northern New York.

Eleanor was born Sep. 1795, in Drax, near Shelby,Yorkshire,England to Joseph Twigg and his wife Eleanor Ward. Joseph was a Linen Merchant, he came from a family of a well to do "Gentleman Farmers" and was somewhat of an embarrassment to the family, he actually went out and made a living as a merchant. Joseph's wife died at child birth leaving Eleanor with no mother. Joseph remarried to Clarissa Jewet in 1796, but she passed away in 30 Aug 1806, and again Eleanor is alone with her father, he passed away 12 Aug 1809. Eleanor is now alone, but Joseph had made arrangements for his estate to go to a brother John or William Twigg who was living in the old family home "Scurff Hall, in Drax, Near Selby, Yorkshire.

This was a beautiful home and came with a family of Aunts, Uncles and cousins. nothing to do but love and cherish her. cousin William Twigg was to graduate in few weeks and become a Vicker.
With the estate she inherited, nothing was out of reach. She was enrolled in a finishing school, she took music lessons from a neighbor, just a few years older than her, Issac Rhodes. Her father having been a linen merchant had made available some of the finest fabrics, that were later made into clothing for her. For 5 years she lived a pampered, life style wanting for nothing. With Uncle John and cousin Joseph she built a bond that lasted for years, and her cousins, Mary, Sarah and Eleanor were very close, there was enough financial stability that no one had to worry.The farm had been handed down for several generations from her grt grandparent Jno Twigg of Wakefield. The relationship between her and her music teacher went beyond teacher student and in March 31 1814, they were married in the church at Snaith, Yorkshire, England.

A disappointment to the Twigg family, Elenior's father had been somewhat of an embarrassment during his life time as he worked first as a Spirit Merchant, then a Linen and latter a Woolin draper. With that behind them there hopes for Elinior were dashed when she dropped below the family social standing. The Rhodes family was of a lower standing and the man she was married to was a teacher not a high social position. There is no indication that any of the family was in attendance at the wedding. This was cause for her uncle John to cut off her endowments.

No time was wasted by the young couple, a daughter Mary was born 1815, the following year, first son Joseph was bap. 24 Jan 1816, at Kingston-on-Hull, Fish street ind.,Yorkshire,Eng. followed by daughter Sarah Ann in 1817. Isaac is finding it hard to earn enough to take care of a wife and three children. They decide it best to go to America. Isaac's career would not have allowed him to accumulate any large sum of money, but Elinor is now past the legal age of 21 and could no doubt obtain some of her inheritance, passage for 2 adults and three children aboard the ship "Athens" must have been quite a sum, plus the up keep on the family. They arrived in the united States 20 Sep 1820. They apparently knew no one during the next 5 years nothing much is known except they added more children. Charlott was born in 1821 shortly after arriving, then in 1824 Isaac came along, by now they are in Clinton Co. New York and ready to take the plunge into Farming. A music teacher and a highly educated aristocratic lady with 5 children Saranac Village, in Clinton Co. at the time 80 other families lived in the whole township, not the end of the earth but you could probably see it from there.

So 5 March 1826 they buy lot 5,Township #4 of the Old Military Tract, 55 acres for $350.
a bad move and its only going to get worse-the area is not even mentioned in the early gazetteers of New York, not until 1830, but our Elinor has another child by then Elizabeth is born 1830. The situation is becoming real bad Isaac has tried hard but he has turned to the bottle only making a bad situation worse, desperate for funds Elinor turns to her family-there is still funds due her but relations with them have not been good but she write to her cousin Joseph Twigg, following is a letter from him:



















I have several of these from 1832 up until 1850's notice how the writing is from left to right
and then paper is turned 180 degrees and written right across-This is very difficult to read plus the worm holes and missing pieces leave something to guess work. a copy follows so you might see the vital information you can find in some of these old family papers:

  1. Your melancholy letter brought me the unpleasing intelligence of your fore loan situation. The interior of America to a person possessed of compatancy is not desirable. Much more they who are deprived of the common necessaries of life your situation must be trying in the extream. It is well you can follow the ----cepts of your once indulgent father by looking unto him who is able to support you in all your troubles. Many changes have taken place since you left England. My dear favorite sister Ellen is now no more, She died happy in God Jan 20 1830. My dear father has also departed his life on the 17 jane 1832 with a sure and certain hope of everlasting happiness. We have much cause to feel thankful to a kind and beneficent saviors that 2 endeared relatives were so well prepared to meet in en----- they were the wisest and the best in out family. Your aunt Wood has lost her youngest daughter while on a visit to Fanny, she died in Sheffield. Mary Mackenze and her husband is still in Hull,David and Ellen is yet living in London. I am inclined to think you have been shameful in neglecting to write for so long a period perhaps necessity may be one cause of your present letter. I have learnt from Mrs Rhodes that your son Joseph has got some of the knowing failings of his father. Had he been dutiful and affectionate he would have remained with you to cultivate the farm. I think your plan of improving the farm ought to be abanded, as in all probability that when your son comes of age he will sell the farm and your improvements, leaving you again to the wide world. Were I in your situation I should prefer --- --- --- some of the large villages or towns in America, or any other occupation more suitable to a female than farming. I find the Rhodes are anxious to have the children over to England where un after years they would augment the super abundant population, America is a more suitable place to those who are destined to labor for there bread as many are wandering about England that would be glad to go to America had they the means of doing it. The Cholera is now prevalent in England it has reached Hull,Goaleand,Selby it has extended to many villages around us. 3 have died in Newland within the last 10 days. The disease commences by a bowel complaint with vomiting and violent cramps all over --- --- --- Will be of service to you I can pay 20 pounds ----bank in London you may name to be --- -- a banking house in America whom you --- --- and believe me dear unfortunate cou---- -- your Sympathetic cousin Joseph.

  2. The rest of the letters are along same line reporting on relatives that are born or passed away, each time sending Elinor money.There is a uncle Leatheriage referred to in every letter he apparently has control of her monies left by her father-she never got any, in fact in the early 1930 the family was notified of money available in England. The depression was on so the family pooled their money gave it to one relative to go to England he got as far as New York City and the money was gone-what ever she had coming went to the Crown.
Apparently Issac Rhoads left Ellinor and the 6 children about 1840, he must have been dead by 1850 as he does not appear in any census and his wife is listed, its about this time the family is breaking up.
As you can see by the letter Son Joseph had left home, in the 1850 census he is living in Isle Lamote, eventually ends up in Fayett, Indiana, on 28 Nov 1860 he sold his interest in the homestead to his sister Sarah and her husband Daniel Parsons. At the same time the other son Issac and his wife Rebecca sold there interest to Sarah and they moved on to Bonus,Boone Co. Ill.were he was engaged in the shoemaker business in the 1860 and 1870 census. Mary also sold her interest in the homestead to Sarah her sister. At this time Sarah and her husband moved into the farm to help her mother. Four years later Sarah sells her interest to her sister Elizabeth Scutt for $100. and The Scutt family take over the farm.

In 1872 Eleanor's favorite grandson dies and she wrote a "Acrostic"
for him- this seems to have been something she did a lot as I have about 10 of them but this is the only one mentioning a family member. Its is addressed "Acrostic on the name and death of James Edward Parson age 18" and signed by his "grandmother Eleanor Rhodes aged 78", Saranac, May 1872.

This material came into my possession from Mrs Sadie Stone , daughter of Elizabeth Scutt, the youngest daughter of Ellinor Rhodes Twigg. Any family members that are interested in this material, I will gladly make copies of the originals for you.

Ellinor died 1878 and with her husband Issac is buried in Lower Saranac, New York. Mrs Sadie
Stone related in one of her letters of the truck full of beautiful gowns and cloths that her grandmother had brought from England, and kept all those years.

The Rhodes farm is now the school house property in Saranac,New York

In reading all the letters, and preparing this, have come to realize just how strong some of these
immigrant ancestors must have been-she had it all in England but put it aside to come here and carve out a life despite all the challenges that were in her way, yet remain true to her god and convictions. Genealogy has a way of making our burdens and obstacles seem trivial in comparison.

Thursday, April 10, 2008

1939 District Basket Ball Champions Nelliston School

The champion team of Nelliston N.Y., School 1939 undefeated
I have no idea of who we played against but we were the undefeated champions in Basket Ball for the 1939 season:
front row: Robert Nellis, Arnold Osborn, Paul Loedwick, Robert March, Art Davis

second row: Donald Gross, Victor Eckler, Albert Waufel, Robert Lord, John Guet

not only are they the basket ball team but they are the whole 7th and 8th grade body of male students, I think there were 6 girls in the combined 7th and 8th grades.

The Nelliston school at the time was under the control of Mr Bowerman, he taught the 7th and 8th grade. also coach and Athletic director. This school was attended by 5 generations in my family. The photos I have from the 1900's show the interior class room walls to have remained the same for nearly 100 years. The school housed 8 grades , two grades to each room. On the first floor the wall between the 5th and 6th grade and the 7th and 8th grade slid on a track so it could be opened, for special combined classes or entertainment.

School Friends Genealogy Proves Relationship


The family started out camping together rather they knew that they were related I never found out while any of them were alive. Darwins Grt Grt Grandfather was George Lasher who married Maria Klock and they were also my Grt Grt Grandparents-Same town,small world. Pictured are Hazel Lasher on left with Darwin Lasher and Mary E. Lord my mother and me. Notice the old car, and lantern below the fender-this was at Pine Lake about 1928. Darwin and I started our friendship real early. The walk to school mornings and nights was quit a trip no buses it was just a tag over 3 miles from my house to the school house but you had to cross the Mohawk River and that was one windy cold trip.As long as I can remember "Tim" as we called Darwin wore a light cloth jacket like the Eisenhouser jacket of ww2- no matter how cold it was, that is all he wore for a coat.
In the fall of in 1939 Darwin met a new girl from Stone Arabia, name was Edith Saltzman, It wasn't long before I met her sister Mildred, things were good we saw the girls in school and whenever there was a dance we managed to meet them. Then weekends our parents started to get involved. It was at least 8 miles from my house to the Saltzman farm in Stone Arabia so if we could make it happen one of our parents would drive us out to the farm and the other one would come and pick us up. When this would not work we would walk. A few days before Xmas we had to snowshoe across country, note the photo we each have a gift under our arm.


Weather permitting we would ride our bikes, in order to get traction, we wrapped rope around the tires . Were this is a will there is a way. We had
a lot of fun at the Saltzman farm, One time in the
early fall we were helping fill the silo, George Saltzman
the girls father was up in the top of the silo, inside
standing on a ladder or something, Darwin was feeding
the worm which feed the corn into a chopper to which
was attached a 8 inch pipe running up the outside of the
silo and in thru the hole were George was so the chopped
insulage could go up the pipe into the Silo. My job was
to put water in the chopper to keep everything wet
enough so it would pump up the pipe. Of course "Tim"
and I are trying to impress old George. All of a sudden he yells down "Water" so I stick a hose in the chopper to wet it down more, then a lot louder he is yelling "Water-Water" so there is another hose a few feet away I grabbed it and opened it up, now the water it really running out of everything. All of a sudden George comes out of the little hole up there about 40 ft in the air with both arms swinging shouting shut the "dam thing off".
Ya! you know he was yelling "No Water" I did not hear the "no", now we have a 8 inch pipe, 40 foot in the air jammed tight with wet insulage so much for making a impression.
There were a lot of fun times, Our families and the Saltzman family had hit it off pretty good. When it was just right, maybe a fresh snow, or church dinner we would get together. The photo to the left is George Saltzman, Clyde Lasher, Edwin Lord, Darwin Lasher, and Bob Lord. There were a lot of hills on the farm great placed to tobaggon .

When the day was done Mildreds mother was a terrific cook, always a great meal, and a big family in addition to the two girls there was a twin brother Malcolm, and Leo, and a older sister Thelma, With the family and all the boy friends and girl friends it was one great family. Spring time brought about the Sap season, Georges neighbor had a sap hut and several acres of Maple
trees. That is the place to be in March, with the
cold nights and warm days the sap flows good
and when the pails are filed you have to bring them to a vat were it is held until its time to boil it off.
Once this cooking is started you have to stay
with it to keep the fire going . When the color and
thickness of the syrup is just right it has to be
drawn off into containers. What is left is dipped
into a pail and taken outside were we used to
pour it on the snow. This cools and is what we
called "Jack Wax" its sort of part way between
Maple syrup and Maple sugar. If you have never had it, you are really missing out, it's only available while they are boiling down the sap, nothing you can buy in the Super Markets, if money is no object I suppose maple syrup could be boiled down but it would take a lot of syrup and heat. The girls in the photo are from left to right Hazel Lasher, Edith Saltzman, Mildred Saltzman, next do not know, Mary Lord, and George Satzman's wife, I do not remember girls on ground.
By the spring of 1942 I had my car and getting
to the farm was a bit easier. Also about this
time. I was called to the Principals office in
school, a place I was pretty familiar with, but
this time they had a offer for part time job at
the Spencer Textile Mill, sweeping floor and
weighing cloth-right down my alley- better
then I thought, also wanted me to be chauffeur,
not bad he had couple of children, his wife's
nieces June and Sharon Vosburgh. So when
his wife and the girls wanted to go shopping
I got to drive that big Chrysler with bright
yellow wheels. Loved the spring it seems both
of our families either went to Pine Lake or up along the Caroga Creek area, to cool off and play in the water. When we went on these outings the girls always got to be
with us. It was easier with the old Ford, but we usually ended up going to the same spots were the parents were. I do not think we are a open minded today as our parent were in the 40's I guess the times are a lot different now, back then
you could go off to a remote area and not be afraid something was going to happen.
As spring approached Malcolm the twin brother of Mildred asked to ride to town with us, then wanted to pick up a girl friend. What a surprise, his girl friend was the bosses niece June, that worked out and before long Darwin sort of dropped out with Edith, but now I had to pick up June and then go to Stone Arabia for Mildred and Malcolm. this went on for a few months, then one day my grandmother asked me why I was going to Fort Plain to get this girl June and then driving all the way with her to get Mildred and Malcom, come back to town and then take them back and come back with June. She thought June was a much prettier looking girl and I could be with her a lot longer. God those Germans think of everything. In a few days while coming
home from Stone Arabia en route to June's home
I suggested perhaps we could go out together, "there was a great show the next night".
It worked she said yes and the trips to Stone Arabia got further apart. I think there was a family plot going on-whenever I was going to pick
up June to go with her I was offered the family car, Stone Arabia trip and I had to use the old Ford. One night when I had the old ford it ran out of gas, I walked to get some while I was gone wouldn't you know Malcolm saw the car and stopped asked June what happened and she replied "I am waiting for the Robert E.Lee" For years that was a private joke we shared. my name is Robert E.Lord, we are in the photo on the family 1937 chevy-hard to get cars by then, about 1944 looks like early spring just before I left for service.
So the story of my school day friends ends, Darwin and I seldom saw each other after high school, but the girl June went on to be my wife, until I destroyed that relationship.

Monday, April 7, 2008

"Jack" Lasher Grt Grandfather 115th rgt Civil War

The family of John "Jack" Lasher, born 24 aug 1842 in Nelliston,New York, son of George Lasher and Magdalena Klock. in 1890 when the photo was taken "Jack" was just coming home from the West-were he had been prospecting for gold.

In the photo the lady on right is Mary Sterling Lasher born 26 jul 1851, standing next to her is Maude born 1880, then Anna Lea born 1877, my grandmother,and then Adaha born 1875,
the two boys are Berton and Charles. there was one more child born 1893 after the photo she was Lila.

Our subject is one John "Jack" Lasher. born either in Stone Arabia or Nelliston, New York his father sold his farm and moved to Nelliston about the year that "Jack" was born. The father George opened the store in front of the Pickard house and made shoes.
From the time he was born until August 26th 1862, we know very little about him- on this day he enlisted as Private of Captain Garrett Vanderveer's company "A". 115th Regiment of New York Volunteer Infantry, Col Simeon Sammons Commander.. His company was mustered at Fonda 26 aug 1862 and joined the 8th Corp at Harpers Ferry,W.Va. there they were forced to surrender 15 sep 1862 and was sent to Camp Douglas, Chicago. By November they were exchanged, and he went to Washington with Casey's Division, eventually assigned to 10th corp.,Army of the James; district of Florida,1st Brigade 24th corp. When he arrived in Florida his regiment was under the command of general Seymour, in Feb of 1864 his unit was moved to central Florida to Olustee Station were on the 20th Feb a skirmish with parts of Conf Gen. Finegan took place this erupted into full scale battle with approximately 5,000 troops on each side. The Union was taking a beating so Gen Seymour ordered Col Sammon's company and two colored regiments the 54th Massachusetts and 35th U.S.C.T. with orders to cover the retreat of the remaining army. They fought gallantry, giving the Union time to withdraw, however they were not able to remove the dead or wounded from the field. "Jack" was in the midst of the battle and received a ball in the ankle- he was left on the field. The confederate force did not peruse the Union which gave them time to retreat to Jacksonville.
In the meantime the Confederate Soldiers, outraged that they were fighting colored troops killed all the wounded colored soldiers approximately 310 this was the highest ratio of deaths to participants in any battle of the Civil War, this has been confirmed by both sides and by letters from "Jack" the rest of the wounded were carried to Tallahasee, Fla. where Jack was held two weeks,then sent to Andersonville prison for eight and one half weeks, It was here that he removed the ball from his ankle, this was made into a watch fob which he wore all his lifetime and is still in the family.
He was then taken to a prison in Maryland for two weeks after which he was exchanged Nov. 19,1864, and sent to hospital in Annapolis,Md. After a two week stay he was sent home on Furlough- to report for discharge on 15 of June 1865 at Chestnut Hill Hospital,Phila. Pa.
He was united in marriage 9 oct 1870, with Mary Sterling born 28 jul 1851 died Aug 1941
Jack was a restless man, He made some good investments in the village of Nelliston, he owned to meat market located in front of the Pickard property, a beautiful brick home next the the village store on river street were his family lived and Mary died.

He also built a three story brick apartment building. In the photo it is the third building you can see on the left. It burned some years ago.
When gold was discovered in West, a group of men formed a corporation and "Jack" was selected [probably volunteered] to go west and search out some claims, he was gone a couple of years. He brought back some samples and claims that never amounted to anything. [In 1941 while working with boy scouts I was cleaning out a attic in the Bear Home in Fort Plain, found a leather traveling bag with the claims and gold samples from this corporation I turned it over to the owners and have never been able to find out what happened to it.]

Last couple of years of there life Jack and his wife lived separated he died at his daughters home 24 Jan 1905. I think its unusual , his wife Mary whom I knew as a child had all of his civil war items-uniform.papers,bible,--I of course was to young to question her, but she never spoke bad about him

Sunday, April 6, 2008

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this is all new to me will try it pretty new at blogging hope i have followed instructions:
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Saturday, April 5, 2008

What Traits Run in Your Family

Have you ever wondered about that crooked little finger or that unusual birth mark --- maybe its from a ancestor. We all have unique genetics but we also have certain marks that are passed from one generation to another.---
Our family has one very distinctive feature that has been handed down for generations and seems to be genetically strong enough for us to pass it on. Notice the hair line very distinct widows peak not bad when you are young but as time passes the two sides meet and all that is lefty is a crown and bald spot. I am on the left about 1946 my mom in center and father on right.


This is a photo of my grandfather Edwin Booth Lord, taken in 1924 notice the hair line. He is pretty sick at this time and a doctor told him to try and live in the out of doors to help his breathing. He had Tuberculosis of the lungs but they had not discovered it yet. Once a large man, but the cloths give away how much he has lost.

I do have photos of his father Byington Lord, but these were take when he was in his 70's and like the rest of his the descendants, we have a thinning problem nothing on top. Along with this widow peak we also have an abundance of body hair, I used to get kidded in the service-"another day and I would have been a dog" or the "dog tags were used by Barbour to know were to stop with clippers"
As you can see my son Lancing has the same hair line, its beginning to creep back on the sides. He has two children Spencer Lord and Heather Lord, It's awful to admit but I have not noticed if they have this Lord trade mark. Another family trait is the ability to laugh-when things get to serious one of us will find a way to lighten the tension by joking or laughing. I recall my grandfather being this way even in his sick condition he could find some humor in what was going on around him. When there is a family gathering we usually end up being the life of the party

So look to your ancestors for those odd traits or obvious similarities that we share from our genetic past.

Friday, April 4, 2008

Genealogy of Family Heirloom A Flintlock

I think I am very luck to have found this weapon. I owned it long before I knew anything about it.
A Volks Wagon repair man Mr Zapp, also dabbeld in guns, had purchased it from a auction in Amsterdam,N.Y. when the contents of the Smith bakery was sold in 1948. At the time I was buying all sorts of guns my collection had over 1000 handguns and shoulder arms always looking for more so I stopped to see him, he told me about a flint lock he had but it was not for sale he was keeping it to get a big price from a guy by name of "Lord" whom he had head was a gun dealer and interested in history. I assured him this guy "Lord" would not pay him any bonus in fact I told him "Lord" would probably not even buy it as it's in to bad a shape. Well after an hour or so, and the thought of immediate cash convinced him and I came home with the gun.









It is a beautiful piece in very bad condition, a Connecticut weapon made probably in the late 1700's It was given a special place in my collection. On the top of barrel
there is a German silver inlay and this is inscribed with J.LORD, this is
why the dealer in Tribes Hill new I would want it.

The story took several years to develop, in 1948 I had no idea who my grt. Grandfather was let alone who J.Lord was but just felt it would come to pass.

In 1949 my parents and my wife and I purchased a store in Canada Lake, N.Y. shortly after we built a couple of cabins and hired a Wally Crispin to put in Fireplaces. We become very friendly with Walley and his wife Harriet.

Several years later we had purchased Pine Lake Park, and Harriet Crispin lived in the park area, she brought me a large envelope with some pictures of a Mary Smith who had owned a camp just past Pine Lake, she had died several years ago-her and her husband Stanton Smith had owned the bakery in Amsterdam,N.Y. and one picture had name Mary Lord written on it, so she thought I should have it. So it put it away the light was still not coming on.

Then about the same time I learned about "Barney" Lord, Byington Lord who's father was Martin Lord, his father was Anson. Now Anson's father is Joseph Lord born 1762 married Elisabeth Johnson. Their son Anson Lord, born1786 died 1877 , married Betsey Byington, born 1788 died 1883, their oldest son was Daniel St John Lord, born 1815, married to Virginia Wells born 1839 died 1903, she was from Virginia, he married her while in Civil War, that's another story, they had a son Charles D. Lord, born 1867 died 1938. They also had two daughters Mary Ione bn 1871 died 19 oct 1948,wife of Stanton Smith, and another daughter Ida born 1874 died 1932.

The gun went from the owner Joseph Lord to his son Anson, he had sold his home and was living with a daughter, but the gun went to his oldest son Daniel, who died 1877, Virginia, his wife gave it to Charles who died in 1938 , his sister Ida was already dead so the gun went to Mary Ione lord Smith, wife of Stanton, and she died in 1948, with no children, her estate was auctioned off. Mr Zapp. bought the gun and I got it from him. The Crispin's had been very friendly with the Smiths and recall seeing the gun over the fireplace in the camp.

It is in need of restoration, I hope that as it passes from me to my son Lansing Lord, that it will remain with him, that he might pass it along to one of his children Spencer or Heather, Its a magnificent example of a early "cod fish rifle" and I am extremely happy that I was able to find it and be able to piece together the genealogy of the flintlock which has been handed down for so many generations-temporarily lost, but recovered, that it might remain with the family for years to come.

Tuesday, April 1, 2008

Historical Artifacts From Battle Site Lake George
















One of the many objects uncovered from the battle of Lake George 1755-1757. This is a copper frying pan. about 2 inches deep and 12 inches across, it has a rolled edge around the rim. Another one exactly like this was found on Rogers Island at Fort Edward. While we cannot prove that Major Robert Rodgers used this it was found at the site in Lake George were Rogers group encamped during the battle of Lake George, directly east of the Wood Fortress in what is now known as Ft.George. A area that was first used as hospital and later entrenched and used as primary fortification when the main structure was under siege.
Map is from Society of Colonial Wars Publication and shows the layout of the trenched area were Major Rogers was. This is the staging area for Rogers, after the defeat here he returned to New Hampshire and went on to form a company of men mostly from New Hampshire who served throught the colonial war period with their base of operation Rogers Island, Ft. Edward.
I found these items when Mr Charles Wood of Glens Falls,N.Y. was clearing the land and grading the area to the east of the present Fort were Gas lite Village now stands. With his permission I was allowed on the site at day break and was able to salvage anything that the bull dozer's uncovered as they moved the earth about, I had about a week and only a couple of hours in the morning and in the evening when things shut down.


These are some of the items that were uncovered, I am sure we missed a lot, in all there were dozens of lead musket balls and after a while I did not pick up the glass and broken shell fragments. One very unusual mystery was about half dozen half pennies all dated 1749 and
all of them in near mint condition the ground was well drained but these coins must have been in a container that protected them from the soil. They were dark but not corroded as you would expect. Among the many items there was a very few silver coins , all of which were minted in Mexico City silver Piller.

I have a few of the half cents and the frying pan, they will be offered on E-Bay in the near future if you are a collector of this period